No I am talking about the initial robo/cold call. They are made daily for different scams, including student loans. This means the lead generators are sharing the numbers or the lead generators change the scam daily/hourly. Call frequencies are coordinated… a handful a day. Don’t answer a lender and expect a robo vacation or student loan offer. They are all linked… But how?
I got more of our friends sending voicemails to my TextNow number and answering the phone asking for FSA ID right off the bat. I also have recorded proof of this.
@Philmuhcrackin#89477 I checked and it looks like they’ve parked both these DIDs since then But I’m sure more will come back tomorrow. These guys are like whack-a-mole.
Judging by 800notes.com submissions and the ones I saw here from @Eviltaco799 this BS Lead Generator operation's been going on at least 2 years right here in the Good ol' USA and needs to die.
We know know at least 2 scam companies (Student Forms and Student Loan Services) this illegal lead farm transfers people to so they're for sure their primary source of revenue. Even though SF and SLS are not the ones making the illegal Robocalls they're knowingly hiring this call center to do it to get leads. They could probably still be held legally responsible for the TCPA violations. So going after those companies could possibly cut off this stupid lead farm call center's funding. But no guarantee then it would go away for good unless we find out who exactly they are :P
If anyone has a text document of all the numbers without me having to scrape for them I would appreciate it so we can go thru and add numbers and verify old ones as well.
@kenzo#89499 that’s one of the scam companies that the “receptionists” working for this lead farm connects people to when they say they’re connecting you to a “certified advisor” the other is http://www.studentforms.org
All known DIDs are still parked so far. However, I managed to find one of the Student Loan Scam Companies Business Records these clowns hot-transfer people to (Student Loan Services).
Fun new info I found out is that they've actually had their LLC incorporation is suspended and the record here has the owners' names and address's. All of them are in SoCal 👍🏻
Also found Student Forms. When the DIDs I’ve test-called back these guys numerous times to see if they’d hot-transfer me to anyone else but it seems that these are the only 2 they sell hot-transfer leads to. Located in West Palm Beach, FL.
Both are engaging in illegal and dishonest marketing techniques but Student Forms still has a legal/active LLC in Florida. While Student Loan Services isn't even supposed to be operating as far as the California FTB is concerned.
@NeeP#90464 Haha not as of today I wish. Still have no idea who they are. But these 2 scam companies they hot-transfer to people are most likely their main source of funding.
Haha I've been to Santa Ana a few times. It's nothing special. But it is right next to Anaheim (best known for being the city Disneyland is in). Wir brauchen ein Urlaub 🧳 :P
Last week I found out that these ‘I’m just a receptionist’ girls from the ‘National Student Help Center’ are also a Lead Generator call center for US tax debt consolidation scams as well. They
also illegally robocall people and identify themselves as the ‘Financial Relief Center’
At first I only had my suspicions that they were the same call center because of nearly identical IVRs. So the last time they robocalled me I simply asked them if they were the same as ‘The National Student Help Center’ but the girl (Liz) denied it and said they’re not.
Turns out they were lying of course because today I connected them together (Liz from Financial Relief Center and Samantha from National Student Help Center). They knew each other and I could hear their voices on each side of the line.
@urlaub14#92210 number doesn’t work for me sadly u sure you got the right one? Cuz it doesn’t even give this voicemail message it usually gives when they shut down their number.
Haha what coincidence. Damn we need to map their business out! I always wonder who they are and who this mysterious Jayleen is that talks to me and then their number stops working after that.
@NeeP#92214 I tried it again yeah sorry about that. It looks like they’ve taken it down again since in the last hour. The ‘Financial Relief Center’ # still seems to work though. 562-386-0395
A recording from today proving they’re the same call center
@Philmuhcrackin#92411 Looks like they’ve already parked the DID. It just goes to the “Thank you for calling. It seems you’ve reached us after business hours”.
Will have to wait for another robocall from 'Jenny'
@NeeP#92531 Tried this morning at 10:03AM PDT but looks like they parked the DID already.
I've called back Students Loan Services at 19492396270, one of the companies they provide the hot-transfers to and asked them who their hot-transfer lead provider is but they always hang up and say "none of your business". But maybe someone can trick them into telling?
The "I'm just a receptionist" lead generator people never will say who they are. They know they're working for a scam (no matter how cute the girls sound) and providing leads to a scam. They just don't care.