These lenders offer unsecured business loans. They use lead generators who make unsolicited calls to cell phones using spoofed numbers.
Just hit them with a barrage of calls
this is an actual company, I suggest not calling
@netgear481#14394
There are several major league scambaiters who refuse to call American scammers due to unfamiliarity, refusal to acknowledge scammers beyond tech/IRS exist, refusal to acknowledge that Americans can be scammers, because the scammer has taken great steps to ensure they appear legit, or because they refuse to belief that legit companies are not capable of illegal business practices.
I suggest review of FTC rules for scambaiters who are unfamiliar with them.
Telemarketers must transmit their telephone number and, if possible, their name, to your caller ID service. This protects your privacy, increases accountability on the telemarketer’s part and helps in law enforcement efforts. -ftc.gov
Federal Communications Commission (FCC) regulations prohibit telemarketers from using automated dialers to call cell phone numbers without prior consent. Automated dialers are standard in the industry, so most telemarketers are barred from calling consumers' cell phones without their consent. - ftc.gov
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Hey this is Greg with Tuv Investments. I am really sorry you think we are a scam. We are located in Friday Harbor Wa if you would like to come out and visit. It is a beautiful place we have hiking and biking in the summer and fires and hot cocoa in the winters. We must have a different definition of scammer.
We actually fund merchants we have funded thousand of merchants nationwide. So what do you do when you have made a mistake myjackcity? Are you capable of a mistake? Am I guilty till proven innocent? How do I got about proving my innocence?
@myjackcity#14397
Hey this is Greg with Tuv Investments. I am really sorry you think we are a scam. We are located in Friday Harbor Wa if you would like to come out and visit. It is a beautiful place we have hiking and biking in the summer and fires and hot cocoa in the winters. We must have a different definition of scammer.
a confidence game or other fraudulent scheme, especially for making a quick profit; swindle. verb (used with object), scammed, scamming. 2. to cheat or defraud with a scam.
We actually fund merchants we have funded thousand of merchants nationwide. So what do you do when you have made a mistake myjackcity? Are you capable of a mistake? Am I guilty till proven innocent? How do I got about proving my innocence?
@Mosesenator#14423 There is a removal request policy listed at the top of the forum. The moderators will use that process to remove your number.
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I would be happy to delete the post if you provide the following information:
Who do you buy your leads from?
Do the lead generators make the cold calls first so that you have a so called "warm lead"?
Do you use spoofed numbers when you call "warm leads"?
We have so many different lead sources. I have seen a few listed on here as I read the posts. Edirex, Lendio, Buyerzone, meridian, to name a few off the top of my head. With out a specific call it would be hard to isolate the actual source.
We purchase live transfers so yes the lead gen company calls and get the merchant on the phone and then transfers the interested merchant over to us.
Not sure what you mean by spoofed number so I will take the definition from the internet to make sure we are both on the same page.
Caller ID spoofing is a service that allows a caller to masquerade as someone else by falsifying the number that appears on the recipient's caller ID display.
We do not masquerade as someone else or falsify any numbers that appear on Caller ID. We do have multiple area codes in multiple states through VOIP provider but they are our numbers that we call out and receive calls on. We never hide this number or falsify it.
@myjackcity#14424
We have so many different lead sources. I have seen a few listed on here as I read the posts. Edirex, Lendio, Buyerzone, meridian, to name a few off the top of my head. With out a specific call it would be hard to isolate the actual source.
We purchase live transfers so yes the lead gen company calls and get the merchant on the phone and then transfers the interested merchant over to us.
Not sure what you mean by spoofed number so I will take the definition from the internet to make sure we are both on the same page.
Caller ID spoofing is a service that allows a caller to masquerade as someone else by falsifying the number that appears on the recipient's caller ID display.
We do not masquerade as someone else or falsify any numbers that appear on Caller ID. We do have multiple area codes in multiple states through VOIP provider but they are our numbers that we call out and receive calls on. We never hide this number or falsify it.
@Mosesenator#14427 Thank you. I would like to inform you that your lead generators are in violation of FTC rules and regulations. They are providing you with bogus and unreliable leads.
I recommend that when you receive a bogus lead or one uninterested in a loan, that you notify the lead generator and have them remove the number from the database. If they are unable to remove the number, I recommend no longer working with them. Therefore, you will no longer be associated with unscrupulous business practices.
Are you BBB accredited? Is the BBB aware of the lead generators being utilized are responsible for a number of the scams and violations of FTC rules that they track?
@myjackcity#14429
We do not pay to play with the BBB. BBB is a racket that takes money from companies to make them appear clean.
Once a merchant tells us they are not interested we put them on our internal do not call list that is what we are required to do by law which we adhere to.
As for the lead generators we get live transfers if someone comes through to us they have shown interest. The first question we ask is "I understand you are interested in capital" If the merchants says no then we get refunded for the lead and never call again, and if they say yes then they are a interested lead that we have paid for so we will call that lead daily to get documents back to proceed with funding before one of our competitors picks them up.
Simple economics will weed out bad lead gen. If they are bogus and unreliable then we will not be able to fund any of the leads they send and we will stop buying their leads.
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