just as a general observation. Over the past 3-4 weeks I’ve observed a decrease in the level of seriousness invested by most SSA scammers.
1) They seem to have stopped asking for drivers license photos. It is likely it chased away too many real victims.
2) Most do not seem to stay over schedule at all. Once 5 PM PST hits, all of my ongoing calls seem to drop. At the start of this month I held 2 guys until 930PM PST, but now none seem to be dedicated to their jobs anymore. ( https://hearthis.at/vadim-tudor/mike-litoris-02/ )
3) The 202-932-NNNN operation seems to be a new call center. Much more professional in general, their workers seem to have all passed 10th grade at least. Much more polite and legible, but they still lack dedication. Had the call dropped mid drive when their office hours came to an end. I will start asking for more callback number,s that way I can tie down a few more after their main line shuts down.
Feel free to express your own observations below :)
@vadim#150449 You are so right. I observed the same. In one YT video today, the Naga lady did not read any “south border of Texas” script and straight away demanded $200.
Except for “(202) 932-4588,” the general conduct is much, much worse. Lately, many SSA scammers are dropping the F-Bomb as often as I say the word “the.”
Just wonder if when they hire the scammers is their title SSA employee or SSA SCAMMER … Did their boss tell them that they would be absolutely insulted most of the time when they receive calls ? It erks me when you tell them can’t suspend SS … And it just goes in one ear out the other … I try and way hard on heart strings like your mother your poor mom having raised a piece of shit like you … And how they are heartless soulless to scam little ole ladies out of their money… I usually hit just one number ALL day … till the recognise my voice… some times feel victory but most times feel pissed and lash out
@Draco#150474 I used to do that in the beginning. It was ok, and in some ways it was a nice exteriorization exercise, to cuss at them with everything I had. More recently I’ve found its more satisfying to take them on long long long drives until I make them sit overtime, only to prevent them from getting the cards by redeeming or making some silly random argument. (Ex: Sir, you need to get the Best Buy Cards. -> Me: I am at the Walgreens, not Best Buy) X 100. If you go on long drives, its nice to have something to do. I usually workout or read books.
@vadim#150449 I have noticed what I can only call a general laziness. Since we all pretty much know the full script and all the little details, it’s easy to notice when some are missing… like when they don’t bother asking about your retirement accounts or what class driver license you have. It just seems like more has been left out lately. It could be they are just being lazy, but it also could very well be the boss is pushing for more turnaround, so less time on the phone equates to more victims per day. Either way, the results are generally the same.
The main difference I have noticed is their attempts to weed out the players... the photo thing was one attempt that appears to have failed. Now, the telephone verification thing is the new deal, and it appears to be gaining some traction in actually serving its intended purpose. I know it has bit me on many occasions and you really need to be creative to get around it, if you can at all.
I feel like the SSA scam will eventually go the way of the IRS scam. The IRS scam used to be super popular, you’d always get robocalls from people claiming to be the IRS.
Eventually, that scam was too wellknown. People knew that the IRS wasn't going to call them. I feel like the same thing is slowly happening for SSA scammers.
Plus, the SSA script is absolutely ridiculous nonsense. A government safety locker known as a giftcard? Suspending a SSN? We know you're innocent but we're still going to arrest you?
The entire script is full of errors and nonsense. I think that eventually people will catch on and I think that people have already started to catch on.
Eventually, they'll probably change it to a different government office in an attempt to scam more people.
Finally, we have come to know these scammers are from Surat city in Gujarat state in India. Gujaratis are typically very well-financed. They are typically ver r rich and have strong network f just their own kind (Gujaratis). Roles are clearly defined.