Police and partners connect with ethical hackers to stop scams

The Edmonton Police Service (EPS) and its partners at the United States Secret Service (U.S. Secret Service) and the Collin County Texas Sherrif’s Office have collaborated with ethical hackers to prevent more than $42 million Cdn in losses to scammers.

Between July 2025 and May 2026, the EPS developed a relationship with an ethical hacker network, also known as scam baiters, who provided police with intelligence related to in-progress scams. The ethical hackers intercepted the victim’s information and shared it with police, at which time the EPS partnered closely with the U.S. Secret Service and Collin County Texas Sherriff’s Office to identify victims. All three agencies then used all methods possible to contact victims and disrupt fund transfers, including contacting law enforcement in the victim’s jurisdiction and engaging banks and service providers to stop or freeze financial accounts before losses occurred.

“Contacting victims was often difficult because the information received was fragmented and incomplete,” says Cst. Brian Mason with the EPS Virtual Investigations Section. “Once contacted, convincing them they are being scammed wasn’t always easy and often involved the support of local police agencies and sometimes family members.”

Scammers frequently persuaded their victims to allow them access to their computers and devices and, as a result, gained access to vast amounts of personal and financial information. Often, they also watched and listened as victims engaged with police and actively worked to convince them the police were the actual scammers.

“These scammers used manipulation, fear and urgency to coerce complainants into sending their life savings to a network of money mules and couriers, many of whom are part of vast networks that fund terrorist activities such as human, weapons and drug trafficking,” says Mason. “They used a variety of scam types, including pretending victims are owed a refund from a prominent retailer, or impersonating government agencies, and then requested funds via wire transfer, mailed cheque, product shipment, cash/gold for courier pick up or cryptocurrency.”

In total, police contacted more than 50 law enforcement agencies, including agencies in the United Kingdom, the United States and Canada, and engaged with over 300 victims, preventing losses for each of them. The largest loss prevented was in the United States at $4 million dollars and to date, more than $42 million Cdn has been saved.

“Scammers relentlessly target victims across borders, making their crimes a truly global threat,” says Peter Murphy, the Resident Agent in Charge of the U.S. Secret Service’s Vancouver Resident Office. “We deeply appreciate the efforts of everyone involved – from ethical hackers that provide valuable information that can jumpstart an investigation to the banking partners who freeze accounts and help return stolen funds. We are especially grateful for our close and ongoing partnership with the Edmonton Police Service and their unwavering commitment to investigating these scams.”

“The efforts of the U.S. Secret Service, the Edmonton Police Service, and their partners to disrupt these scams helped prevent the victimization of hundreds of people and kept millions of dollars from potentially reaching criminal networks,” says Emily Fleckner, U.S. Consul General to Calgary. “Decades of trust and collaboration between American and Canadian law enforcement agencies culminate in outcomes like these and underscore the continued importance of cross-border law enforcement cooperation.”

The EPS would like to thank the many law enforcement partners engaged in this project who assisted with disrupting these scams. In addition, the EPS is reminding everyone to remain vigilant and discerning.

“Retailers and government agencies will not ask you for personal or financial information over the phone, via email or text message, nor will they ask for access to your computer to assist you,” says Cst. Mason. “If you are unsure about a communication, or you are not expecting an interaction with a government agency or a refund from a retailer, ignore or disengage and report it to your local anti-fraud centre. If you were scammed, contact your local police.”

Finally a PD that gives a hoot.

I’ve had such a hard time getting US law enforcement to take action. Even when I had names addresses email cashapp accounts etc. They just didn’t care enough.

Pinning this for two weeks, this is some good shit.

$42 million dollars saved from being scammed all because law enforcement worked with scambaiters is so awesome to hear, i hope this causes a sort of chain reaction in which more law enforcement agencies step in and help ethical hackers/scam baiters take down scammers and save victims

Same here, I will gladly help anyone investigate the hell out of a scam organization.

Finally some good news for once! I’ve also been thoroughly ignored on quite a few occasions when trying to present facts & evidence to law enforcement. That’s usually when I say fuck it and start spamming the scammers back until they actually block me instead of the other way around.

People often ask why local police “do nothing” about phone scammers, romance scammers, tech-support scams, or hacked-computer fraud. It’s because the crime immediately crosses into federal and international jurisdiction.

The moment a scam involves: • interstate phone calls • mobile networks • the internet • email • social media • banking systems • cryptocurrency • or servers located in other states/countries…it can fall under federal agencies such as the FBI, Secret Service, FTC, Homeland Security, Postal Inspectors, or IC3 cybercrime units.

Local police departments have authority only within their own municipality, town or state. (City police within their own town or city , County Police within their own County, State Police within their own ) They lack jurisdiction and can not act.

Many scam operations are run from foreign call centers or organized outside US jurisdiction entirely, making arrests extremely unlikely even when the scam is obvious.

That doesn’t mean reports are useless. Police reports and FBI/IC3 complaints help establish patterns, connect victims, identify networks, and support larger federal investigations.

A lot of people misunderstand how jurisdiction works in fraud and scam cases. Town or city police only have authority if the crime was committed within their own municipality. County police or sheriffs usually operate within county boundaries. State police typically have statewide authority. But the moment a crime involves:

• interstate communications

• telephones

• cellular networks

• computers

• the internet

• email

• banking systems

• wire transfers

• or social media platforms

…the case then falls into federal jurisdiction, because the crime is now crossing state lines and using federally regulated communications and financial systems.

That’s why local police often cannot simply “go arrest the scammer.” They may lack legal and/or jurisdictional authority to do so. Many scam operations are run from other states or entirely outside the United States.

Cases involving online fraud, wire fraud, identity theft, computer crimes, telecommunications fraud, or organized cybercrime are handled by federal agencies such as the FBI, Secret Service, FTC, Homeland Security, Postal Inspectors, or multi-agency cybercrime task forces.

This is not “police doing nothing.” In most cases, it is a jurisdictional and logistical reality where local police can not do anything.

Well put MajorLeeAwsesome but there are still a few points I disagree on. You left out laziness & Incompetence. In the realm of law enforcement there is more than enough of both to go around. Those same law enforcement agencies that claim their hands are tied without the proper evidence, (Even if you hand it to them on a silver platter) have no issue kicking down your door and ruining your life based off of a random phone call with zero evidence.

Also, when trying to present evidence to help law enforcement generate said reports to further their investigations, they just seem uninterested a lot of the time. A lot of them point you to their website to fill out and file the report for them. I’m sorry but I’m not a fast typer. So I’m not going to spend over an hour pecking at the keyboard, when I’ve already spent a good portion of my time gathering facts and information about the attempted crimes. The American people are already doing most of the tedious, redundant work as it is without getting paid for it, so please don’t ask us to do any more Type your own fucking report.

Even when reporting crimes within your own community with proper evidence, half the time the police can’t do anything either. Mostly due to some bureaucratic bullshit.

I understand there’s a process to things mainly due to that pesky constitution and all. But when it’s easier for a cop to fabricate evidence to write a series a bullshit traffic tickets, than it is to go after real criminals when presented with real evidence, then something is wrong.

That being said, I don’t want people to think that every law enforcement agent is bad. You named off quite a few different agencies which have exceptional policing at each one. All I’m saying is let’s not kid ourselves into thinking that every person at every agency is exceptional. Especially when a good portion of them are just trying to get through their day and go home like the rest of us.

I don’t actually disagree with most of what you said. There absolutely are lazy, incompetent, burned-out, or apathetic people in law enforcement, just like there are in medicine, construction, IT, politics, or just about any other profession involving human beings. Pretending otherwise would be dishonest. As a matter of fact, you’d be hard-pressed to find anyone more critical of law enforcement than me.

But there’s an important distinction between “they don’t care” and “they legally cannot act,” and people often blur those together.

A local police department cannot launch an investigation into someone operating out of their jurisdiction. The moment phones, interstate communications, wire fraud, computers, or financial systems cross state or national borders, jurisdiction changes dramatically. That’s not an excuse, that’s literally how the law is structured (in the US)

Now, are there cases where reports get ignored, officers are dismissive, departments are understaffed, or bureaucracy becomes absurd? Absolutely, and far too often. No serious person denies that.

As for the “they’ll kick your door in over a phone call” part… that’s a separate issue entirely involving probable cause standards, judicial oversight, bad warrants, informants, constitutional violations, and sometimes blatant and outright misconduct. Those cases absolutely happen and when they do, they deserve to be held accountable. But that still doesn’t change the jurisdictional reality of cybercrime and telecom fraud investigations.

I think the most accurate statement is this: Some cops are exceptional. Some are mediocre. Some are absolutely terrible. But even the good ones are constrained by jurisdiction, staffing, evidentiary standards, prosecutors, budgets, politics, and constitutional limits. People often assume police have unlimited authority and resources because television portrays them that way. In reality, most agencies are fragmented, bureaucratic, reactive, and legally constrained.

This is definitely not “defending” law enforcement. That’s just describing how the system actually works, flawed as it is.

ive never thought about it that way,and i feel like thats very important insight for people that hate how little law enforcement does about this kind of stuff. from my experiences, it completely sounds like they just dont care, but yea thats a good way to put it.

It’s interesting because the local police can not even make an arrest at a post office, even if it is in their town. Many post offices are under federal jurisdiction. Exclusive federal jurisdiction exists on federal lands, so local police are entirely barred from making arrests. If a post office sits on land designated as an exclusive federal jurisdiction, local police do not have the legal authority to arrest someone, even for a disturbance or any other crime.

Likewise if a post office is located inside a federal building or even on any parcel of land owned the federal government, state and local laws do not apply, and local police have zero arrest authority.

Crazy , right?

yea it for sure is, i didnt know that. so then who would be authorized to arrest someone committing a crime

It would have to be the postal inspectors, postal police or Federal protective services. Jurisdiction sure is weird.

Nicely put MajorLeeAwesome. It’s nice to talk to someone who hasn’t completely lost faith in this country’s institutions. Lord knows that I have. I also however, believe that most of them are worth saving even if a lot of them need to be restructured. Some need to be gutted completely. But I don’t suscribe to the mindset of burning everything to the ground because it’s corrupt. Those Ideals are for the drugged up retards of society who do not want to logically think things through. If we destroyed every institution that was currupt, we would have nothing to fight for anyway.

Again, I just wanted to point out that I don’t hate the police. It is a pretty thankless job that society unfortunately needs. I just don’t think that we should throw infinite money in their general direction all the time either. Even though more police is generally good, Fifty para-military police states are not.

I know it’s fashionable to hate on police these days (Or any other day) but I was just pointing out how frustrating the current system is. I’m glad to see that they are working with whomever they can to get the job done. That’s the important part of the original post that shouldn’t get overlooked.

BTW I hope everyone had a blessed memorial day as well!

One of the biggest failures of the modern Western democratic system is the complete lack of accountability and the weak, painfully slow response to industrial-scale telecom fraud and abuse. Everybody talks, everybody holds hearings, everybody issues statements — meanwhile ordinary people are being robbed, harassed, manipulated, and financially destroyed every single day.

There are several dimensions to this problem:

  1. We must start aggressively holding VOIP carriers and telecom intermediaries accountable. Far too many of these companies hide behind the absurdly convenient defense of “we didn’t know” or “we’re just a wholesale provider.” That excuse stops being believable when the same providers repeatedly route obvious scam traffic, illegal robocalls, spoofed numbers, fraudulent SMS campaigns, and other criminal garbage year after year while collecting enormous profits from it.

At some point, “we didn’t know” becomes willful blindness.

These companies should be getting buried under lawsuits, regulatory penalties, and government enforcement actions the moment it becomes clear they knowingly ignored abuse patterns. Right now, the incentives are backwards: there is enormous money to be made facilitating this activity, while the consequences are minimal. I’d also love to see the private right of legal action against VOIP SCUM to have class action lawsuits filed against them. Imagine how much money we can generate too!

  1. We also need to stop pretending that foreign actors are not a central part of this problem. A massive percentage of illegal robocalls, spam texts, scam operations, fraudulent support centers, and abusive offshore harassment campaigns originate from countries such as India, Pakistan, the Philippines, and several others.

Not every call center operation is technically a scam, but many US and EU companies intentionally outsource aggressive and legally questionable operations overseas specifically to shield themselves from liability and public scrutiny. Everybody knows this is happening.

And because these industries generate huge amounts of money locally, there is often little motivation for foreign governments or law enforcement agencies to seriously crack down on them. The West needs to start making this economically and diplomatically painful through sanctions, trade pressure, visa restrictions, financial targeting, and much more aggressive international enforcement cooperation. Again, there are 3 key culprit nations mentioned above. Once you take care of that challenge, the problem will likely diminish.

  1. We are also failing to hold our own institutions accountable. Congress, the FBI, DHS, the FTC, the FCC, and countless regulators spend years fighting political turf wars, issuing reports, and conducting endless bureaucratic theater while ordinary people — especially the elderly and vulnerable — get financially gutted by bottom-feeding scum operating at industrial scale.

The criminals understand something our governments still do not: if enforcement is slow, fragmented, weak, and politically distracted, then crime becomes a business model.

Right now, telecom fraud is one of the safest and most profitable criminal enterprises on Earth. That is an indictment of the system itself.

@MajorLeeAwesome @T-Rex

Have you guys come across scamwise.com? great way for people with no knowledge about scams to identify scams.

Exactly

I have had detailed discussions with scammers when I get them in the right mood. They openly tell me about what they do. Mainly because they know there’s nothing I can really do to catch them.

In somewhat more positive news here’s a cop who helped: