Psychics, televangelist charlatans, companies like Amway that run legal scams, is it right to harass them?
I have raised the question about Amway in the past. They are scammers and it is OK to harass them, as far as I am concerned. However, I think the main goal here is to combat unsolicited phone calls and emails which amount to harassment of the person on the receiving end. Amway and others are careful about how they operate and do not seem to violate the TCPA as far as I am aware of.
Now, Amway specifically has a (controversial) court ruling in their favor acknowledging that they are not a scam. They have "clean hands" in the eyes of the law, deep pockets, and are ready willing and able to take criminal and legal action against such harassment. Should the admins of this forum receive a legal letter from their lawyers, they would likely comply. Betsy DeVos is Secretary of Education and you had better believe that her family is not afraid of using legal actions to defend themselves.
For Amway and others like them, it is a case of buyer (or selling agent) beware. In general, if they don't bother me, I won't bother them. I did try to combat Banker's Life for underhanded job recruitment, it did not go far. With legit business, we as consumers have the right to report matters to the state attorney general or any other law enforcement. Even if a victim loses money, they will typically say it is a civil matter.
So free speech allows me to say Amway is a scam, regardless of the court ruling. And there is nothing they can do about this forum post.
MLM's are a way of life and an industry throughout the midwest. Utah is a haven for them. Try to square that for a minute, how did the morally superior Mormons get so rich?
Also as a general rule, if a company can easily be identified: names of owners/mangers, websites, offices, telephone numbers, and other contact information, they have exposed themselves to the authorities and regulators. Customers/victims are empowered by the system to respond through legal avenues.
It is when this background information is hidden by scammers, consumers/victims have no means of recourse. The purpose of scammer.info is to identify this information to allow for such recourse or in most cases just desserts.
I think it’s fair to have a civil discussion and question them to see if they are actually aware of the mess they are in. When I was much younger before marrying my now ex-husband (that I met when he was 21 years old) I was the one who helped him get his FIRST job. (Now I realize that’s a bit of a red flag). He was a sucker and gullible and targeted my someone doing some sort of MLM and it was clear they were withholding information.
For those who are aware I might playfully troll them IRL to prompt a possible inner dialogue and challenge what they seem to believe. If it goes further, I provide sources and evidence to back up what I'm saying. I make it clear I do have their best interest in mind but I will definitely sass them.
Money talks. $6.4 Million is the price
Facebook Is Making Millions Off A Nationwide Gun Permit Scam
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/facebook-is-making-millions-off-a-shady-gun-group-that-cons-its-customers_n_5db0b401e4b0d5b7894548fc
@myjackcity#117137 Hey man keep the Mormons out of this just talk about the scams.
@theplanedealguy#117119 No
personally, i believe anyone who interrupts your time without invite is deserving of the same. but that’s just me.
Don’t shoot the messenger Follow the profit: How Mormon culture made Utah a hotbed for Multi-level marketers
@myjackcity#117137 You are so right. Another example is:
Forever Living Products International, Inc. multi-level marketing (MLM) company Acquired company Aloe Vera of America. They are a plague in India, specially New Delhi.