A few things of note:
I called the 833-451-5111 number yesterday.
First time I called they asked what I was doing when I got the virus.
Nearly every company I have called has asked this question.
This might just be a get the conversation going question, but it may have deeper meaning.
Because the first time I called Matthew and he asked this question I said "I was on youtube"
he responded "liar" and hung.
Second time I answered Facebook.
Same response, "liar" and a hangup.
Third time I responded that I wasn't sure, I had a bunch of windows open and I clicked on a porn site accidentally and then it opened like 20 windows.
Winner winner chicken dinner.
I am a tech idiot so the following q's may sound stupid to youz but humor me:
1) When they attach their popups are they attaching them to specific sites?
2) if they are then they would know you are full of shiiite if you give them the wrong site.
Last piece of data about me. I served in the military police with a top secret clearance.
I worked in a hot zone with analysts.
None of broke by codes by ourselves.
We broke codes by collecting and sharing data.
For example, Matthew obviously did not put his popups on youtube and facebook or I was not convincing enough in that call.
He responded affirmatively to my "bunch of windows open, clicked on porn accidentally, 20 more windows opened"
We would share that information with each other all day, every day.
Collecting intel is like puzzle building.
Everyone shares their pieces.
you put them together collectively, and you start to break down their systems.
IF they hang up on you, what you said and did is critically important. It tells us what they are wise to.
Same if you get through.
Names are important.
I was speaking to Victor earlier and my phone ran out of battery. No, I didn't get a case number, my phone died!
And of course, any time you are taping them and can get them to admit they are scamming, cheating, stealing or lying, it helps with Class Action lawsuits and RICO investigations. Dehli Cyber Crime has a pain in the ass requirements system which requires you to prove you were a victim with documents etc. A class action lawyer, needs victims and TAPES and no documents from those collecting tapes. They'll simply use them in the trial.
I also note that of all the tapes I have listened to in Youtube and in here, none ever say the name of their company. They all say they are technical support. So you have to ask them if they are MS IT HUB or whatever company was listed on the pop-up. They purposefully do not say the name of the company because they have been advised by wise legal counsel that doing so puts them at risk for both class action and cyber crime conviction. If you are taping them and have gained their confidence, get the name of the CO.
Here are some ways:
How long have you been working for MS IT HUB?
I looked at MS IT HUB's website before I called you, they do a lot of great work!
I've heard of MS IT HUB, you helped my cousin! Are they good to work for?
Are you Microsoft IT HUB? -- NO -- Just MS IT HUB? --
Keep pressing the name of the company.