Amelia Clark the "Graphic Designer"

[ModsHacksNCracks]

Scammer’s Discord: Name: Amelia clark, Username: amelia_cr
Additional information about this scam: A random person DMed me on Discord saying that they do graphic design for commission. I told them to make a banner and logo for my YouTube channel. They then sent me a PayPal invoice for $205 (link).

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Hi there @ModsHacksNCracks

can you explain more about the situation? Was the price agreed upon before making a contract? Was a contract made? Was it specified how the logo and banner should look like? Was a banner and logo actually provided to you? Can you post some conversation screenshots?

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[ModsHacksNCracks]

Sure, no problem. Here is some information:

1. Yes, the price was agreed on after I explained my need for the banner/logo.
2. It was not specified what it looked like.
3. No contract was made.
   And here is the messaging log:

4. Amelia clark — 11/21/2023 4:36 AM

Heyy?

2. 

Mods — 11/21/2023 6:20 AM

3. [6:20 AM]

Hey

4. 

Amelia clark — 11/21/2023 6:27 AM

How are you?

5. 

Mods — 11/21/2023 7:08 AM

Good

6. [7:08 AM]

How are you?

7. @Mods

Good

Amelia clark — 11/21/2023 7:08 AM

That’s great

8. 

Mods — 11/21/2023 7:08 AM

Why’d you add me?

9. @Mods

How are you?

Amelia clark — 11/21/2023 7:08 AM

I’m good

10. @Amelia clark

I’m good

Mods — 11/21/2023 7:09 AM

Good to hear that

11. @Mods

Why’d you add me?

Amelia clark — 11/21/2023 7:09 AM

Sorry for random dm

12. 

Mods — 11/21/2023 7:09 AM

Ok

13. 

Amelia clark — 11/21/2023 7:09 AM

Actually I’m an artist and was looking for some commission work

14. [7:10 AM]

If you want any art i can make for you in a very reasonable price

15. 

Mods — 11/21/2023 7:11 AM

Oh wow

16. [7:11 AM]

Can you paint me a picture of a golden retriever

17. [7:11 AM]

They are so cute

18. [7:11 AM]

How much would that cost?

19. 

Amelia clark — 11/21/2023 7:22 AM

I don’t do paintings i’m a graphic designer

20. 

Mods — 11/21/2023 7:22 AM

Oh

21. [7:23 AM]

Well then in that case

22. [7:23 AM]

I need some graphics for my YouTube channel (edited)

23. [7:24 AM]

Can you make a graphic that says “SpeedOfLight”?

24. 

Amelia clark — 11/21/2023 7:25 AM

I can do’ can you provide me any reference picture

25. 

Mods — 11/21/2023 7:25 AM

26. [7:26 AM]

Don’t ask how I made this, I’m a bad graphic designer

27. 

Amelia clark — 11/21/2023 7:27 AM

do you want naming logo with this symbol?

28. 

Amelia clark — 11/21/2023 8:01 AM

?

29. 

Mods — 11/21/2023 9:35 AM

Yes

30. @Amelia clark

?

Mods — 11/21/2023 9:35 AM

I was eating breakfast

31. [9:38 AM]

Can you show me some work samples before you start?

November 22, 2023

32. @Mods

I was eating breakfast

Amelia clark — 11/22/2023 3:24 AM

Ohh okay

33. @Mods

Can you show me some work samples before you start?

Amelia clark — 11/22/2023 3:25 AM

Yeah sure

34. [3:27 AM]

35. [3:28 AM]

36. [3:29 AM]

This is my previous work.

37. 

Amelia clark — 11/22/2023 5:12 AM

@Mods

38. 

Mods — 11/22/2023 8:38 AM

Ok

39. 

Amelia clark — 11/22/2023 8:41 AM

Do you want a logo and banner for your youtube on the same theme ?

40. 

Mods — 11/22/2023 8:43 AM

Yes

41. @Mods

Click to see attachment

Amelia clark — 11/22/2023 8:45 AM

you want this in your banner or logo?

42. [8:45 AM]

Also tell me about what theme do you want?

November 23, 2023

43. 

Amelia clark — 11/23/2023 6:28 AM

@Mods

44. 

Mods — 11/23/2023 10:20 AM

Yes?

45. [10:20 AM]

I was asleep

46. @Amelia clark

you want this in your banner or logo?

Mods — 11/23/2023 10:20 AM

Yes

47. @Amelia clark

Also tell me about what theme do you want?

Mods — 11/23/2023 10:20 AM

It’s a gaming youtube channel

November 24, 2023

48. 

Amelia clark — 11/24/2023 3:14 AM

Do you want any social tag in banner

49. 

Amelia clark — 11/24/2023 7:18 AM

@Mods

50. 

Mods — 11/24/2023 8:28 AM

Yes

51. Amelia clark

Do you want any social tag in banner

Amelia clark — 11/24/2023 8:29 AM

?

52. Amelia clark

?

Mods — 11/24/2023 8:29 AM

Yes

53. 

Amelia clark — 11/24/2023 8:30 AM

provide me your social tag?

54. 

Mods — 11/24/2023 8:31 AM

Just write my username of youtube in it

55. 

Amelia clark — 11/24/2023 8:34 AM

mods?

56. 

Mods — 11/24/2023 8:38 AM

Yes

57. [8:38 AM]

Discord tag

58. 

Amelia clark — 11/24/2023 8:40 AM

Btw where are you from?

59. 

Mods — 11/24/2023 11:53 AM

Canada

November 27, 2023

60. @Mods

Canada

Amelia clark — 11/27/2023 3:18 AM

Ohh okay

61. @Mods

Discord tag

Amelia clark — 11/27/2023 3:18 AM

Okay

62. [3:24 AM]

What’s your deadline?

63. 

Amelia clark — 11/27/2023 5:45 AM

@Mods

64. @Amelia clark

What’s your deadline?

Mods — 11/27/2023 6:14 AM

No hard deadline here

65. [6:14 AM]

But preferably, I want it done in a week

66. [6:14 AM]

That’s plenty of time I’m giving you here

67. 

Amelia clark — 11/27/2023 6:44 AM

Okay

68. @Mods

Click to see attachment

Amelia clark — 11/27/2023 6:47 AM

As an review you want this symbol in your logo and banner you want mods text on your banner also confirm me you want black color theme in your banner and logo?

69. 

Amelia clark — 11/27/2023 7:28 AM

@Mods

70. @Amelia clark

As an review you want this symbol in your logo and banner you want mods text on your banner also confirm me you want black color theme in your banner and logo?

Mods — 11/27/2023 7:29 AM

Yes

71. [7:29 AM]

How much would that cost?

72. [7:29 AM]

Could I pay you once you are done, I just want to see the end result and see if I am satisfied with your service

73. 

Amelia clark — 11/27/2023 7:32 AM

You have to pay me 50% as an upfront and rest of the payment after completing your work

74. @Mods

How much would that cost?

Amelia clark — 11/27/2023 7:33 AM

Btw you want static or animated

75. @Mods

How much would that cost?

Amelia clark — 11/27/2023 7:34 AM

May i know your budget?

76. 

Amelia clark — 11/27/2023 7:51 AM

@Mods

77. @Amelia clark

May i know your budget?

Mods — 11/27/2023 9:23 AM

Under $100

78. @Amelia clark

Btw you want static or animated

Mods — 11/27/2023 9:23 AM

Animated

November 28, 2023

79. 

Amelia clark — 11/28/2023 3:20 AM

Your budget is so low you need to increase your budget a lil bit

80. [3:21 AM]

let me tell you my prices for logo and banner

81. [3:22 AM]

i charge for static logo $100 and i charge for animated logo $200

82. [3:22 AM]

but i can do animated logo for you $180 if you want (edited)

83. [3:24 AM]

and i charge for static banner $150 and for animated banner $250 but if you want animated banner too so i can do just for you $230

84. 

Amelia clark — 11/28/2023 5:23 AM

@Mods

85. 

Mods — 11/28/2023 6:16 AM

No problem, I will increase my budget

86. @Amelia clark

and i charge for static banner $150 and for animated banner $250 but if you want animated banner too so i can do just for you $230

Mods — 11/28/2023 6:16 AM

Sounds like a deal

87. @Mods

Sounds like a deal

Amelia clark — 11/28/2023 6:37 AM

Are you comfortable enough so can we move towards payment method ? (edited)

88. 

Mods — 11/28/2023 6:40 AM

Yes

89. 

Amelia clark — 11/28/2023 6:41 AM

provide me your active email

90. [6:42 AM]

i will send you invoice there you can pay there throw invoice

91. [6:42 AM]

is it okay for you?

92. 

Mods — 11/28/2023 6:42 AM

[email protected]

93. [6:43 AM]

You can send it here

94. [6:43 AM]

Pay using credit card ok?

95. 

Amelia clark — 11/28/2023 6:43 AM

and confirm me one thing how much you are willing to pay as an upfront?

96. 

Mods — 11/28/2023 6:43 AM

I am willing to pay 50% of it upfront

97. [6:43 AM]

Rest 50% after you finish your project

98. @Mods

Pay using credit card ok?

Amelia clark — 11/28/2023 6:43 AM

sure you can pay debit/credit whatever you want

99. @Amelia clark

sure you can pay debit/credit whatever you want

Mods — 11/28/2023 6:44 AM

Send me the invoice then and I’ll pay

100. @Mods

I am willing to pay 50% of it upfront

Amelia clark — 11/28/2023 6:44 AM

Perfect so i am sending you invoice of $250

101. [6:44 AM]

is it okay for you?

102. @Amelia clark

is it okay for you?

Mods — 11/28/2023 6:45 AM

The total project will cost $500?!

103. 

Amelia clark — 11/28/2023 6:45 AM

your total project will cost you $410

104. 

Mods — 11/28/2023 6:46 AM

Oh ok

105. [6:46 AM]

Then the invoice should be for $205

106. [6:46 AM]

Not $250

107. [6:47 AM]

Because I’m willing to pay half of it upfront

108. 

Amelia clark — 11/28/2023 6:47 AM

oh my bad

109. 

Mods — 11/28/2023 6:47 AM

Typo?

110. 

Amelia clark — 11/28/2023 6:47 AM

okay i am sending you invoice in just 5 minutes do active on your email

111. 

Mods — 11/28/2023 6:48 AM

Ok

112. 

Amelia clark — 11/28/2023 6:53 AM

i send you

113. [6:53 AM]

did you receive an email?

114. 

Mods — 11/28/2023 6:53 AM

One sec

115. [6:53 AM]

Lemme check

116. 

Amelia clark — 11/28/2023 6:54 AM

okay

117. 

Mods — 11/28/2023 6:54 AM

Why did you add a tax (paypal service charge) on it?

118. [6:55 AM]

I don’t want to pay any service fees

119. 

Amelia clark — 11/28/2023 6:55 AM

once you are done with the payment do share the screenshot

120. 

Mods — 11/28/2023 6:55 AM

That’s really annoying, I’ve requested work from many freelancers and none of them charge a service fee

121. [6:55 AM]

Even those that do paypal payments

122. @Mods

I don’t want to pay any service fees

Amelia clark — 11/28/2023 6:55 AM

that’s okay don’t pay that i’ll pay that

123. 

Mods — 11/28/2023 6:56 AM

Send me a new invoice for $205 as you said then

124. 

Amelia clark — 11/28/2023 6:56 AM

okay sending you in 2 minutes new updated invoice

125. 

Mods — 11/28/2023 6:57 AM

Ok

126. 

Amelia clark — 11/28/2023 6:59 AM

i send you updated email

127. [6:59 AM]

can you check your email?

128. 

Mods — 11/28/2023 6:59 AM

Ok

129. [7:02 AM]

I can’t pay for some reason

130. 

Amelia clark — 11/28/2023 7:02 AM

can i ask why?

131. 

Mods — 11/28/2023 7:02 AM

I keep getting “value is invalid” on my valid street address

132. [7:02 AM]

Which is extremely frustrating

133. [7:02 AM]

I tried different variations of it but it all won’t work

134. [7:02 AM]

PayPal doesn’t think the address exists then

135. 

Amelia clark — 11/28/2023 7:03 AM

i am so sorry can i share you my paypal tag you can pay there

136. [7:03 AM]

is it okay for you?

137. 

Mods — 11/28/2023 7:03 AM

I don’t use paypal

138. [7:03 AM]

I pay only using credit card

139. [7:03 AM]

That’s how all the freelancers pay me

140. [7:04 AM]

They usually use stripe.com so you can check that out

141. Mods

That’s how all the freelancers pay me

Mods — 11/28/2023 7:06 AM

Sorry meant I pay freelancers

142. [7:06 AM]

Not the other way around

143. 

Amelia clark — 11/28/2023 7:06 AM

how would you like to pay?

144. 

Mods — 11/28/2023 7:07 AM

Credit card as I said

145. [7:07 AM]

But paypal isn’t working for me

146. [7:07 AM]

Any other way to pay using a credit card?

147. 

Amelia clark — 11/28/2023 7:07 AM

do you use cashapp?

148. 

Mods — 11/28/2023 7:07 AM

No

149. [7:07 AM]

I don’t have any digital wallets

150. 

Amelia clark — 11/28/2023 7:09 AM

I just confirm from my billing department, they can send you a new invoice on paypal, if you need any help they can guide you on call to perform the transaction

151. [7:09 AM]

we believe paypal is the most secure way to pay

152. [7:10 AM]

where both parties feel protected

November 30, 2023

153. 

Amelia clark — 11/30/2023 8:25 AM

@Mods

154. You missed a call from Amelia clark that lasted a few seconds. — 11/30/2023 8:26 AM

155. 

Amelia clark — 11/30/2023 8:29 AM

?

December 3, 2023

156. 

Amelia clark — Yesterday at 8:15 PM

@Mods

[ModsHacksNCracks]

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